Wednesday, May 11, 2016

Considering SE Asia: Cambodia

What are some of the similarities and differences between the rule of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and the Kim dynasty in North Korea?  Be sure to give specific examples from class activities.

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  1. In the end, it is very simple to allocate judgement for situations as cut and dry as this. China, Bangkok and the U.S are responsible for allowing the situation to fester but the perpetrators themselves are no less guilty. Due to the far reaching effects of the Vietnam Conflict between the U.S/Saigon Regime and the Hanoi regime, much Cambodia was ravaged and in ruins following the end of the conflict in 1975. After this the Khmer Rogue regime in Cambodia, supported by the Hanoi Government, continued the system of destruction by instituting their own reforms in Cambodia and killed any who opposed or were a potential threat. The US, China and Bangkok all basically turned a blind eye or indirectly supported this as the Khmer Rouge regime preoccupied the Hanoi Government instead of continuing hostilities against the US or other nearby nations. So in the end, the perpetrators are still guilty of the crimes but the big players in the region still are responsible for allowing it to happen under their watch. The lesson that can be learned is that governments will most often act in the interests of themselves rather than come to the aid of those in need when there is no physical incentive.

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  2. The Khmer Rouge's history, philosophy, international relations, and harsh rule are similar to the Kim Dynasty's rule in North Korea; however, the two differ in their views of modernization. To begin, the Cambodia Civil War can be considered a proxy war between the communist Khmer Rouge and the government of the Kingdom of Cambodia. Likewise in the Korean War the communist North fought against the US supported South Korea. Secondly, both the Khmer Rouge and Kim Dynasty were communist and tried to achieve self-sufficiency. Furthermore, the Khmer Rouge boycotted the 1993 UN elections. Similarly, North Korea is not influenced by the decisions of the UN and does not react to the UN's "peer pressure." In addition, both regimes ruled in a repressive manner. The Khmer Rouge operated the notoriously harsh Tuol Sleng Prison and the Kim Dynasty manages ruthless and inhumane prisons. Also, the Khmer Rouge destroyed many libraries, schools, and books to cleanse the nation of any unfavorable information. Comparably the Kim Dynasty restricts the digital and physical flow of information in and out of North Korea. However, the two nations differ in regards to modernization. The Khmer Rouge tried to avoid industrialization, whereas the Kim Dynasty modernized by rebuilding the entire capital city after the Korean War.

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  3. The Kim Dynasty and the Khmer Rouge were both leaders of Asian countries, however their ruling differed. The Khmer Rogue was at war with Cambodia before finally winning, while the Kim dynasty took over North Korea and continued the line through birthright. While their ruling is not inherently violent, it is dictator-like and restricts the people's media privilege and the country's borders. The Khmer Rouge on the other hand is violent, and actually created a genocide in Camodia by killing 10,000 people. In both occasions other countries have tried to get involved, but for the most part is has not had a major effect upon the events occuring. Overall, but dictatorships are bad, but the Khmer Rogue is definitely worse as it is not only bad, but incredibly violent as well.

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  4. The US, China and other countries are responsible for the many genocides occurring in Cambodia. You have to think of Cambodia as a child without rules and whiteout rules, that child will do what it pleases just as Cambodia did. The US could've intervened and stopped the genocides before they started. However the US did try to stay out of Southeastern Asian conflicts after Vietnam which was detrimental to the US. Altogether I feel that the UN could've established some stable form of government and a stable political system that wasn't corrupt. After the many genocides in Cambodia I feel that many countries felt the blame on their "shoulders" as they could've intervened and stopped the mass murders.

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  5. Although the Khmer people were the ones who actually committed these genocides, there was not much help from the other world powers to intervene and try and put end to it. The Khmer people were the majority in Cambodia so they think they had the only voice in their country and looked at other ethnicities and religions as inferior to them. These were the reasons that the Khmer people went on and kill people that did have the same ethnicity or religion as Khmer. Even though the Khmer people were he ones who carried out this task, it could have been prevented if other world powers had just step in and try to control the situation. For example, the United States was already their in Southeast Asia in order to help south Vietnam against north Vietnam, so they could have possibly tried and solve the problem in the country, or China could have travelled down to Cambodia and see if they could try and solve the problem. So Cambodia did carry out these horrible events, however they are not one hundred percent to blame, because other countries did try and help the non-Khmer people in Cambodia.

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  6. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and the Kim dynasty in North Korea compare when it comes to its goals and treatment to the people, but differ when it comes to who they consider allies and enemies. First off, the Khmer Rouge and the Kim dynasty have the same goal of bringing their land to be self-sufficient and not dependent on the global community. In addition, both rules monitor and create harsh laws for their citizens. The Khmer Rouge instituted labor camps and illegalized religions and books for its people, and the Kim dynasty made any type of foreign media illegal inside the North Korean borders. As for the difference between the two rules, the Khmer Rouge allies with the United States while the United States is against the Kim dynasty. The United States sides with the Khmer Rouge because they do not want to “sour it’s improving relations” with China. The Kim dynasty allied with China during the Korean War, but the Khmer Rouge received support from China and the US, and that is a major difference between the two rulings. In the end, both rulings are similar and different when it comes to ideology and its relations with the global community.

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  7. The Khmer Rouge genocide of 1975-79 was allowed by larger powers that had no interest to stop what was happening and let the situation become much worse over time. The bigger powers were not interested in stopping the genocide that was taking place because some of the effects were benefitting the other countries. The Khmer Rouge regime that was conducting the genocide in the country also slowed the northern vietnam influence that was spreading into the country before the genocide had started. The Chinese used Cambodia as a resource to balance off Vietnam even though the government situation and status was worse then Vietnam’s at the time. These things acted as distractions that the larger powers did not want to get rid of at the time and stopping the genocide and fighting the regime would slow down or stop these events completely. The powerful countries acting for the benefits of their own rather then help the ones that are in need of aid. The Khmer Rouge regime was influencing the are with extreme reforms and changes to the area. The regime destroyed the flow of information and documents that were found in libraries and schools that contained information that opposed them. When the Khmer Rouge were defeated, the remaining leaders were charged with crimes against humanity and genocide. If the larger countries had intervened, the genocide could have ended earlier then it actually did. China, Bangkok, and the U.S. chose not to intervene because they acted for themselves.

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  8. Corrupt leaders; particularly, Pol Pot and the successor to Sihanouk in 1970 are responsible for the conditions that permitted governmental mass murders in Cambodia. To begin, Prince Norodom Sihanouk made efforts to maintain a neutral Cambodian stance between U.S. and Vietnam, but his ouster took a much more volatile position and intervened. This placed Cambodia in the middle of the Vietnam War, which provoked the retaliation of President Nixon. This led to the mass murder of numerous Cambodians. Furthermore, Pol Pot led a guerilla army that turned its weapons to the capital. This tarnished the image of the civilians of Cambodia and diverted the blame from the capital and onto the civilians. The result of the belligerent actions taken by these corrupt leaders was a corrupt account of history. These horrors should serve as an example for future leaders to come, as they prove that virulent and combative policies are not always a viable solution.

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  9. The rule of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and the Kim Dynasty in North Korea have many similar aspects. To begin with, they are both communist. The governments also both committed a genocide. In Cambodia and North Korea, the government killed their own people which is considered a genocide by most of the rest of the world. Both of these genocides included the killing of women and children. Literacy rates in both countries fell during the rule of these communist leaders. In addition, the governments tampered with records and restricted the documentation of certain things in their country. They were both very cruel to the people of their country but today, only the Kim Dynasty still stands.

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  10. The Khmer Rouge and the Kim dynasty share both share violent and brutal leaders. Pol Pot, the leader of the Khmer Rouge, genocided a multitude of ethnic and religious minorities in Cambodia as well as displaced 150,000 Vietnamese residents living in Cambodia as well. Kim Jong Un, the third supreme leader of the Kim dynasty has the potential to kill thousands as Pol Pot did, with his nuclear weapons, but has not done any large scale acts of violence yet. It is safe to mention that he did publically execute his uncle in order to assert his authority when first rising to power. Another both dictators run a communist regime, only one of them has actually preformed a mass killing. Both regimes have tried to limit the information that their subjects could access. The Khmer Rouge went about destroying libraries and schools, and even killing teachers and professors. In a similar way, Kim Jong Un has sought to isolate his country by outlawing all forms of modern media like most most movies, television channels, etc.

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  11. Cambodia and North Korea have went to phases that are very similar to each other. One similar phase is that there were proxy wars within the civil wars of the two countries. In the Korean civil war, the U.S sided with South Korea and the Soviet Union sided with North Korea. Similarly, in Cambodia the U.S supported the Khmer Rouge and the Soviet Union supported the other side. Another similarity between the two countries is that both rulers treat their citizens very badly. Both countries have had some sort of "mass killing" or genocide at some point in their history. A difference between the two countries was that the Khmer Rouge did not want to industrialize, while North Korea did industrialize during the Kim dynasty. Overall, both countries were cruel to their people and larger nations could have stopped the Cambodian genocide if they would have intervened earlier.

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  12. The Khmer Rogue and the Kim Dynasty are similar for multiple reasons. The first reason they are similar is because they both have similar ideologies. Both believe in communism. Along with the belief in communism, both regimes treat their people in similar manners. The citizens are kept under harsh rule, and genocide has been committed by both regimes. Finally, both regimes wanted to be self sufficient, meaning they wanted to be able to have their entire population survive without foreign aid. The Khmer Rogue and the Kim Dynasty have a few differences as well. The Khmer Rogue is allies with the United States, while the United States is one of if not the most hated country of North Korea.

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  15. The Khmer and the Kim rules have been similar in the fact that their people are treated poorly and the rulers have placed strict laws on them. In the Khmer rule, labor camps were created and operate similar to prison camps in North Korea. They also have laws against literature, like North Korea keeps its people from using video cameras and watching DVDs. These laws are put in place in hopes to achieve self sufficiency in both rules. The two rules differ in their intervention with the outside world. In the Khmer rule, all the world powers stayed away from intervening to avoid complications. In the Kim dynasty, other countries must be involved so that they are not under the threat of nuclear war and provide financial aid to North Korea.

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  16. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and the Kim dynasty in North Korea are similar in their rule and oppression of their people, but they also have some similarities and differences in international relations. To begin, both are similar in their rule. The Khmer Rouge's Democratic Kampuchea government and the Kim dynasty are actually both communist governments. Secondly, both oppress their people. The Khmer Rouge committed mass genocide against their people, and destroyed sources of education; similarly, the Kim dynasty provides only education that puts their rule in a good light, and they also torture and kill anyone who speaks out against their government. Lastly, both are similar, yet different, in their international relations. Both the Khmer Rouge and the Kim dynasty do not listen to the United Nations, and the Khmer Rouge actually boycotted the UN 1993 elections; however, the Khmer Rouge's independence was supported by the United States, but the Kim dynasty is despised and opposed by the United States. In summary, both the Khmer Rouge and the Kim dynasty are similar in rule and oppression of their people, but they have similarities and differences in international relations.

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  17. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia has multiple similarities and differences to the Kim Dynasty in North Korea. The Khmer Rouge has had multiple leaders within the same family, just like the Kim dynasty has withheld the power in the Kim family for three generations. Another similarity is the violence from both dynasties and the leaders which has gone unannounced. There often times are no records or public acceptance from the leader that they participated in the genocide. One difference between the Khmer Rouge and Kim Dynasty is when the war between north and South Korea took place, the war "ended" with the borders close to the original location. However, the Khmer Rouge location changed dramatically. Lastly, another similarities is that both dynasties started to host tourists, showcasing their land on supervised trips.

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  18. The Khmer dynasty possesses a number of similarities to that of the North Korean's Kim Dynasty, although they differ on some points especially those that look towards the future. To begin, the Khmer dynasty committed a mass genocide, and in doing so destroyed many sources of education, similar to how the Kim dynasty does not allow the education of all people and instead limits it to specific people. Plus, both the Khmer dynasty and the Kim dynasty were communists, and as such constantly worked in such a way so as not to need to rely on other countries for anything. Although, they differ on how they feel about foreign relations; where the Khmer dynasty is approved by the United States, the Kim dynasty is despised by the United States. In contrast, they both do not listen to the United Nations and often just ignore the bills they pass for whatever they feel is best. Also, both the countries differ on the points of globalization and whether or not to truly enter into the modern era. Where the Khmer think they should stick to their ways and stay as they are, the Kim dynasty tries to force itself into industrialization, such as how they revolutionized their industry after the Korean War. In essence, the Kim dynasty and the Khmer dynasty are very similar in their policies towards their own people and harsh ruling, but differ on points such as modernization.

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  19. The harsh dictators such as Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge and their support system was responsible for the mass murders in Cambodia. To begin, Pol Pot encouraged dominance over Cambodia and aimed to accomplish that through violence. He created a strong regime involving mass killings of Cambodians, destroying their schools, homes and families. Also, the Khmer Rouge had to obey, and they struck Cambodia and directly forced their power on them. They attacked multiple times, and they ignored elections in 1993 to keep killing Cambodians until 1994 when a new president was in office. Also, many nations supported the mass killings on Cambodia, and continued to support the Khmer Rouge and their acts of violence. "As the genocide progressed, for geopolitical reasons Washington, Beijing, and Bangkok all supported the continued independent existence of the Khmer Rouge Regime." This shows that other countries backed the harsh rule of the tribe, which encouraged them to continue their harsh rule and keep killing the Cambodians. In essence, the government, tribes, and supporting nations of the tribes all contribute to the mass killings in Cambodia. You can learn from this that every action will catch up to you, and you will be repaid. Many leaders went to jail and suffered in efforts to make right for all the actions done.

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  20. Khymer Rogue and the Kim dynasty share several similarities, the first being their leaders. A commonality can be seen between Pol Pot and Kim Jong-UN. Both leaders are terrifying in their rule, with Pol Pot leading genocides killing thousands, and with Kim Jong-UN holding a public execution for his own uncle. Furthermore, both factions are communist regimes, so this shows governmental similarities between the two. However, these two parties are different because the Khymer Rogue does not exist anymore, but the Kim dynasty does.

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  21. Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and the Kim dynasty in North Korea are two political powers that are similar and different in several aspects. Both of these powers inflict harsh rulings such as limitation of education and rights of the people. In addition, both Khmer Rouge and the Kim Dynasty are communist. In contrast, they possess differing opinion of foreign relations, but are overall fairly independent and do not rely heavily on an outside source. In terms of globalization, the Khmer Rouge would prefer to stay where they are in terms of advancements but the Kim Dynasty would like to enforce industrialization into the society. All in all, these two powers present both similar and differing aspects.

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  22. Both the Khmer Rouge and the Kim Dynasty are repressive communist dictatorships. In addition, both countries are/were technically in the state of proxy wars, as the Khmer Rouge and the kingdom of Cambodia were at conflict, while North and South Korea are both in a state of war with each other. However, many countries around the world continued to support the Khmer Rouge while North adore a has little to no support. Sanctions are continuously put onto North Korea. Furthermore, the Khmer Rouge has had extremely oppressive military dictators such as pol pot while North Korea has had the Kims for the past half century. Moreover, both countries controlled the information that was able to go in and out of the country, which in essence lead to major censorship.

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